March 15, 2023
Creating Joy and Imagination: The Diverse Work of Kevin Stark
Creativity doesn’t have to fit into a single box—and Kevin Stark is a perfect example of what happens when you fully embrace every creative passion you have. From building the only Toy and Action Figure Museum of its kind to designing toys for major franchises and creating art across multiple mediums, Kevin shares how following curiosity and creativity can lead to something truly extraordinary.
We explore what it looks like to build a life rooted in imagination, the importance of diversifying your talents, and how staying true to what you love can open doors you never expected. Kevin’s perspective challenges the idea that you have to choose just one path—and instead invites you to create a life that reflects everything you’re passionate about.
Episode Highlights
[02:01] – How a lifelong love of collecting led to the creation of a one-of-a-kind museum
[05:11] – Starting in art at a young age and building a creative career early on
[06:11] – The process of turning characters into collectible toys
[08:01] – The inspiration behind his comic strip “Geezer”
[08:55] – Why creativity doesn’t have to be limited to just one outlet
[10:18] – Balancing multiple creative passions and following what feels right
[13:20] – The museum’s impact on the community and visitors from around the world
[14:48] – A powerful moment that made all the hard work worth it
[17:59] – What makes Pauls Valley a unique and inspiring place to live and create
[22:26] – Advice for artists: diversify your skills and showcase your work
[25:29] – Influences that shaped his artistic journey
[27:53] – Biggest challenges and redefining success beyond money
[31:35] – Words of wisdom: “Do it. Do it now. Don’t wait.”
Links & Resources
- Kevin Stark Art: https://kevinstarkart.com
- Pauls Valley: https://www.paulsvalley.com/
- Chickasaw Country: https://chickasawcountry.com/
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Transcript
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Everyone has a story to tell.
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We connect and relate to one another when we share our stories.
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My name is Amelia Old, and I'm your host of Wisconsin Inspiration.
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Winnies I share stories of friends, family, and strangers through my everyday life and travels.
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Who will laugh, possibly cry, or walk away feeling connected more than ever to those around you and ready to be the change our world needs.
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Everyone has a story to tell.
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What's welcome to another episode of Voices of Inspiration, where we feature remarkable people who inspire us around the world.
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In this episode, I'm excited to introduce Kevin Stark, an accomplished artist and entrepreneur based in Chickasaw and Paws Valley, Oklahoma.
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As the owner of the Toy in Action Figure Museum, Kevin has created a unique attraction that draws visitors from all over the world.
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With over 13,000 figures, the museum has been voted the best new attraction in the state of Oklahoma, making it a musty destination for anyone interested in toys and pop culture.
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In addition to his work with the museum, Kevin is also a talented cartoonist, portrait painter, sculptor, toy designer, musician, photographer, and producer.
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He has worked on well-known toy lines such as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, The Simpsons, and the Mask, and is currently working on his daily comic strip, Geezer.
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Join us as we explore Kevin's creative journey, learn about his passion for art and humor, and discover what inspires him to keep pushing the boundaries of creativity and entrepreneurship.
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Whether you're an artist, entrepreneur, or just a fan of pop culture, this episode is sure to inspire you.
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So you founded the Toy in Action Figure Museum in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma.
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And it's the only museum of its kind in the world.
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What inspired you to start this museum?
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And what do you think has been like the most rewarding aspect of it?
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Well, I was a massive toy collector.
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And the city of Pauls Valley had gotten together a lot of the citizens and some of the city were leaders.
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They were trying to plan the growth of Paul's Valley for the next 10 years.
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And this was called uh Vision 2010.
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Okay.
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So this happened in the year 2000.
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And the things they identified of wanting in Pauls Valley, they wanted a theater group.
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They wanted a arts and cultural center.
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And then they said, well, we'd like to have unique tourist attractions in the downtown area.
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And I joked with one of the committee members and said, I'm the unofficial tourist attraction of the town because news stations would come and do stories on the fact that I designed toys and the fact that I had this massive toy collection.
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And so they would show that on TV.
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And so complete strangers would come and knock on my door and say, Can we come in and see the toys?
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And I was like, Well, I'm in here working, but yeah, come on in, you know?
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And so I I just joked that I was the unofficial tourist attraction and and one of the members said went back to the committee and said, Kevin Stark's going to donate all of his toys to a toy museum.
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I said, No, I didn't say that.
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Well, I I will loan you my toys.
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So we put a group of people together and I kind of headed that up because I was the one with the toys and knew about toys.
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And so it took us about five years to get open because we didn't have a building big enough that was available in the downtown area.
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And this building, which is 7,000 square feet, came available.
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It had been a department store for 75 years.
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And it went out of business.
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We rented it, eventually bought it, and turned the whole place into the Toy and Action Figure Museum.
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That's amazing.
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And you have like over 11,000 figures, right?
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Over 13,000 figures.
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Wow.
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So it and it continues to grow.
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So incredible.
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What's your favorite figure?
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Well, I'm a big collector of Batman.
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Okay.
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We we had a Batcave here that just had nothing but Batman in it.
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And we pulled all that out about a year ago and put in Star Wars instead.
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So we we have so many action figures and toys we can't show everything that we have.
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And so we have two more buildings that that I have that are just full of toys.
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And they're just not on display, they're just in storage.
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So we periodically trade stuff out so that we keep the place fresh.
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And if you come back, you get to see something totally new and different.
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So that's really cool.
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Now you started, I read that you started at an ad agency when you were 15.
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Is that kind of what led to this?
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Well, that that led to I've always done art.
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Uh my dad told the story that when I was four years old, we he and I were watching a show about Michelangelo, and that I was laying on the floor watching this show, and that when it was over, I turned to him and said, That's what I want to do.
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And so I've just always done art.
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And at 15, I started working at this ad agency.
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And by the time I was 18, I was over the art department.
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So that is what started my commercial art career.
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And then I went to college and studied fine art.
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And so I do both.
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But that led to me designing toys, which led to me collecting even more toys.
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Now you have designed toys for a lot of the popular franchises.
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What is your process for creating a design that accurately represents a character?
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Well, a toy company will buy the rights to create a toy line based on, say, a television cartoon or a movie or whatever.
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And as a designer, you know, you're charged with the task of turning sometimes a two-dimensional character into a three-dimensional character.
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So you have to draw the front view, the side view, the back view, you know, and those drawings go to a sculptor.
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So a lot of times you're drawing stuff based on the show.
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And so you have to stick to what the characters look like.
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Uh, but a lot of times we're able to do new characters and come up with different things, different characters that haven't appeared.
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And that for me is the fun part.
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Is there a particular franchise or character that you haven't worked with that you would like the chance to?
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, sure, I'd love to work with Batman, you know, having having done that.
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See, I work actually with a company and we work with lots of different, more smaller, more independent toy companies.
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People like Hasbro or Mattel, they have a staff that's just uh comes in every day and draws Batman, you know, or they come in every day and draw Star Wars stuff, you know.
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So we work freelance, and so I work for companies in Italy and Australia and France and you know, plus America, which I prefer because I like working by the project as opposed to going in and punching a clock and doing the same thing every day.
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So I can relate to that.
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I like the finality of it.
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It's like, oh, okay, we're done with that.
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Let's do something else, you know.
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Now, can you tell me about your project geezer?
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Geezer is a 79-year-old superhero.
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So my father used to think it was based on him, but it's actually based on me.
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Okay.
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It it it's really it's just me as a 79-year-old.
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And the older I get, the more I can relate to it.
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He's he's a 79-year-old superhero.
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And he was a daily comic strip and all, and then I did a graphic novel of him.
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And then I have a lot of other characters and comics I'm working on now, which will be put all together in an anthology.
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So I've got, oh, at least eight more comics I'm working on.
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So now you have a diverse range of skills and interests from toy design, music, photography.
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How did you discover your passion for these various art forms?
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And how do you balance that?
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Well, for me, it's all creating.
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Okay.
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If you're a creative person, you generally don't limit yourself to one thing.
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To me, it's just exploring my creativity in different mediums.
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And I I don't find that to be particularly strange or different.
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It's just all creating, you know?
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And however I feel like creating, like I'm also for other artists, okay, that have vastly different mediums and vastly different styles.
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And someone asked me the other day, well, how do you decide who's gonna be who you're gonna be that day?
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I was like, well, just however I feel, you know, it's like it's like anything.
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I mean, well, I feel like Mexican food today, you know, or something, you know, it's not a hard choice to make.
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If I feel like just like one one character, one artist does birds, she she does very lifelike, beautiful paintings of birds.
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But another artist does thunderstorms at night, which are more abstract.
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And so if I feel like just pushing paint around and being more free with it, then I'll be that character.
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But if I feel like getting down and being really tight and and painting realistically, then I'll be the other character.
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So, you know, it's just how I feel at the time.
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I love that.
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And I mentioned to you before we started the interview that I haven't met anyone else that I related to in this aspect because, you know, very much with my own life and and my own work, I've always had different outlets as well.
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And I've always said, but they at the end of the day, they all connect, you know.
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I work in casting and production of TV film, and then I do this podcast and talk about travel and things like that.
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So, and I'm also in school as an adult learner.
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People say, Well, how do you do all of it?
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And I'm like, Well, same as you.
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It just depends on the day.
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Like, and and at the end of the day, we it is not a a typical nine to five where you just clock out and uh you often put in more hours, but yeah, but but yeah, it's worth it because it's not always like work, right?
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It's like fun.
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It's fun, it's enjoyable.
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The funny thing about me is that people come here to the museum and if they meet me here or whatever, they think this is my job.
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Well, this is not my job.
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You know, this is my you know, donation to the city.
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You know, I I don't get paid here and I just, you know, I come in here, I make sure everything's working and and doing well, but it's not my job.
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And if they walk on down to the my gallery and they see all the stuff in there that I've done, they're like, holy cow, how how do you have time to do all this?
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And I say, Well, it's all I do, you know.
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And then they find a totally different, you know, person down there than is what he is here.
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So, you know, I don't know.
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I think it's fun.
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I it makes me think of something you said in an interview that I watched on YouTube.
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You said seek out what you love and make that your work.
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And I I think that's so true.
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The difference between me and a lot of other people is they haven't figured out what they want to do.
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You're absolutely right.
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So you just have to find out what you love and love it and do it.
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And I and I think for people like you and I, we have a lot of things that we love.
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And I know when I was growing up, they were you were taught to pick one thing and that's it, and you graduate and you go do that for the rest of your life.
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And three children, two of them are adults, and I'm like, but do you really know what you want to do forever at 18?
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Like one thing, like that's really a tough decision.
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Well, the days the the days of working in a factory or whatever all your life and retiring are over.
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Absolutely.
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But you're not guaranteed that even the company will survive that long.
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So true.
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So you should find what you love to do and and try to do that, you know.
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Absolutely.
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Now, the museum has been recognized as as a top attraction in Oklahoma.
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How has it impacted the community and how has it been received by visitors from around the world?
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Well, visitors, we've we've been open for 17 years.
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So it has impacted the town quite a bit in a positive way.
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And we have visitors coming year-round.
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So it's been a great thing for the community.
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The restaurant next door loves us.
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You know, so it's been a very positive impact on the community.
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But being a nonprofit and all, it's always a struggle, always trying to find funding and this and that.
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But but that's the crazy part.
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But the people who visit really literally have been here from all over the world.
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And I now have friends in Australia and Germany and several other countries, as well as other far-off states, just because of this place.
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You know, I've met people here that, in fact, my friend from Australia is visiting me next month.
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That's exciting.
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Uh yeah, it is exciting.
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And and uh, you know, it's the opportunity to have a place where people can come and talk about this stuff and and not feel nerdy or whatever, you know.
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It's like, oh no, you know, you're in the safe place here.
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So we can talk movies and comics and characters, superheroes, and all that business, and and and it's fun, you know.
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There's no judgment here.
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So what has been your favorite story or interaction that you've had with a visitor that's been particularly memorable?
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Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what it is.
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This is a lot of work, and like I said, it I don't get paid for it.
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And sometimes you kind of question, is it worth all the work?
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Okay.
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But one day this four-year-old kid ran up to me and he said, This is the best day of my life.
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And I was like, Okay, it's worth it.
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I got goosebumps.
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You're you're only four years old, but okay, that's so and you know, I've had adults tell me that who are collectors and they're so happy to get to come in and and kind of see toys from their childhood and things like that.
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And they're like, wow, we're so happy that you have done this and that you've got this going and that we can come and visit.
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And so yeah, it's worth it.
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So those are the stories that help make it worth it.
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That is the big deal.
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Because four-year-olds are opinionated.
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Well, it's so funny too, because I I used to have some lightsabers in here and I'd pull them out and I would duel with some of the visitors, and and I was dueling with another little kid.
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I mean, he was four or five years old, but and so we're dueling, and he stops and he goes, like he was, oh, you forced on me, huh?
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You know, so he was doing the Darth Vader thing.
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I was like, this is so cool, this is so much fun.
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I mean, I just love the people and and love meeting new people, and this gives me the opportunity to do that.
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So how has the community influenced your art and how have you contributed to the community through your work other than the museum?
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I'm kind of uh allowed that uh ability to be, you know, offbeat and weird, because they think, oh, that's just Kevin.
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You know, I I get a free pay on a lot of stuff, you know.
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They expect it.
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Yeah, they they expect it.
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It's like, oh well, no, that's no problem.
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You know, that's just Kevin, you know, and was uh chairman of the board of the local arts council and helped them bring artists in and bring entertainers in because I know a lot of people uh they wanted an art walk, and I suggested they do a fifth Friday art walk, and they were like, What's that?
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I said, Well, you we can't really do an art walk every month, you know, being a small town, it's really difficult to do that.
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I said, but there are four months out of the year that have five Fridays.
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Okay, so you just do the fifth Friday art walk, and then you only have to do an art walk four times a year, you know.
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And so I would bring in entertainment because we wanted the I wanted the art walk to be totally different from other art walks.
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So we had um, you know, fire breathers and jugglers, and but we'd also have a mariachi band performing with belly dancers, you know, things like that.
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So really offbeat stuff, you know.
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That's really great.
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What do you think makes Paul's valley a special place to live and work?
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Well, all right, we are right between Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Dallas, Texas.
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We are two and a half hours one way and two and a half hours the other way.
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So that puts us right in the middle.
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We're on the interstate, 35, we're just an hour from Oklahoma City.
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So we're very conveniently located.
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Also, weather-wise, there's a slight mountain range south of us, and so we we don't get a lot of the bad weather that other parts of the state get.
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I'm not telling too many people that though, because I don't want them all to move.
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But we're pretty lucky as far as the weather goes.
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And it's a fairly progressive community, you know, considering you're in Oklahoma.
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There are a lot of artists here, a couple of galleries, art galleries, things like that.
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So overall, it's a really nice place to live.
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It's just very easygoing.
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I've had many opportunities to move to Los Angeles.
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In fact, they keep saying, Why are you not in Los Angeles?
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And I'm like, Well, do you want to live in Los Angeles?
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They were like, Well, no.
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I said, Well, well, neither do I.
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And about the small town life is it I don't have a lot of distractions.
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So if I lived in LA or New York, which I do work in both, uh uh I I would be like, oh, well, there's a concert tonight.
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Oh, and there's a play opening, and then there's another art opening, and there's a museum to go to.
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I I wouldn't get any work done.
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You wouldn't have any uh time to do what you needed to do.
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Right.
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And here it's it's such an easy-going pace.
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I really like it.
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It's quiet, it's nice, and and the uh real estate's inexpensive.
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So whenever I run out of room, I just buy another building.
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So, you know, it's very handy.
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Now, with the Chickasaw's cultural heritage, have you tried to capture any of their unique characteristics in your artwork?
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I have done work with the Chickasaws.
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We worked on a possible action figure line at one time.
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And so we were going to do that, but things didn't pan it out.
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But, you know, we may end up picking it up again later.
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But the museum here, we're in talks to try to do a display.
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